8/26: Go here for the YN-565 in-depth review.
8/22: YN-565 on amazon (I talked with the seller “cheaplights” and he ships from the US and offers 30 days own warranty).
8/22: My Yongnuo YN-565 is still on its way – it left HK on 8/15 according to the mail tracking information system but there was no further update so far; I hope it will arrive between Tuesday and Wednesday 8/24.
Curious to learn how well the new flash works with the Canon Rebel T1i and ST-E2 wireless commanders as well as Nikon cameras and SB-7/8/900 flashes as wireless slave?
Update from 7/24: according to Yongnuo the YN-565 starts shipping in August in the Canon version and 2 – 3 months later in the Nikon version
Update from 3/28: confirmed by Yongnuo: TTL slave mode, but no master mode
As first leaked on March 8 and made official by Yongnuo on 3/22/11, a new TTL-enabled 560-series flash will be released: the YN-565EX, available in a Canon and Nikon version (and even cross-compatible).
It’s a YN-560 with the features of the YN-468, PLUS some huge upgrades on the new 565 making it a much more capable tool for digital flash photography, both in the camera hot shoe and in wireless mode.
The YN-565 competes with Canon’s 580EX II and the Nikon SB-900, but also with other 3rd party flashes in the professional class such as a Metz 58 AF-2, Nissin Di866, and the Sigma EF-610 DG Super.
Expect this flash to be available within 2 months from now = late May of 2011 (latest info from Yongnuo dating 3/24).
Pricing is not known yet. I made a prediction before that it might cost $140 – $180, which would not be too much for the functionality offered.
- first flash supporting Canon and Nikon wireless slave mode in parallel
first Yongnuo speedlite with a wireless master mode (not 100% sure about this feature yet)
- very powerful: official GN 39 at 35mm / 58 at 105mm, expect a real GN of 34 at 35mm
- professional features: PC sync, power pack connector (Canon or Nikon compatible)
- advanced ETTL features: sensor size zoom, modeling light (HSS?)
- very usable for “strobist” flash work: manual zoom, M mode with 1/128 min, fast recycle
Canon and Nikon Wireless TTL Slave Mode Support
Yongnuo have confirmed that the YN-565EX will support both Canon and Nikon wireless TTL modes in parallel (thanks a lot to Leo from imagemelbourne.com.au for the info).
So this is the sensation – we have a cross-brand compatible speedlite now when it comes to the wireless slave mode. You can use either version – Canon or Nikon – as a wireless TTL slave in both systems!
That means that any YN-565 can be controlled from SB-900, or 580EX II, or SB-700, or SU-800, or ST-E2 etc.
No Wireless TTL Master Mode
Yongnuo updated their product details page, and it’s confirmed now there is no commander / master mode on the flash. Here’s what the updated text says:
“AWL SUPPORTED FOR N’s & C’s SYSTEM
The YN565EX can be triggered by 580EX II, SB-900/800/700, 7D/60D/600D, Nikon c-command and ST-E2, and flashes as TTL mode as well as M/Multi mode. To enjoy wireless TTL lighting, ratio control, as well as remote control of output level, you may only take a camera with built-in commander mode, and the YN565EX.”
According to reports and an email from Yongnuo, the flash does also offer a master mode on top of the remote slave feature. The only doubt remaining is the iconography used by Yongnuo which suggests it is only a slave.
In that case, one key feature of a professional flash is missing: it’s not able to control other speedlites through wireless TTL.
The ‘wireless’ icon is the arrow shaped symbol found at the rightmost button in the upper row, after the word ‘ZOOM/’.
If you compare the icons on the Canon 580EX II displayed on the right (has the master feature) and the ‘wireless’ icon on the 430EX II on the left (only slave feature but no master mode), you see a slight difference: the latter uses an arrow symbol with one arrowhead while the former shows a double arrow to indicate transmitter plus receiver functionality.
The arrow on the Yongnuo has – one arrowhead only. So the icon says slave only.
Hot shoe TTL for Canon or Nikon
Due to the different layout of electrical pins in the flash foot / hot-shoe, the 2 versions are not cross-compatible in the camera hot-shoe: get the 5-pin Canon version for a Canon camera, and the 4-pin i-TTL version to use in the hot shoe of a Nikon body.
In wireless mode these pins are certainly irrelevant; that’s why it’s possible to work in both manufacturers’ respective TTL modes when used remote.
Wireless Feature Overview
Here’s a table with an overview of the wireless features:
|Wireless feature||Yongnuo YN-565 for Canon||Yongnuo YN-565 for Nikon|
|Hot-shoe TTL mode support||Canon ETTL(II)||Nikon i-TTL|
|Wireless master mode||no master mode||no master mode|
|Wireless slave mode||- works as remote slave in Canon wireless ETTL(II) mode
- works as remote slave in Nikon wireless i-TTL mode (AWL slave)
|- works as remote slave in Canon wireless ETTL(II) mode
- works as remote slave in Nikon wireless i-TTL mode (AWL slave)
Guide Number 58 (ISO 100, 105mm)
According to the Yongnuo specs the new flash has a guide number of 58 (meters, ISO 100, 105mm). That’s the same guide number found in the specs of the existing YN-560.
For the 35mm wide angle setting, the guide number table of the YN-560 states a GN of 39. This is higher than the value for the Canon 580EX II with GN 36 at 35mm and Nikon SB-900 (GN 34).
That’s why I think we’ll see the same result for the YN-565: guide number of 34 (meters) at 35mm instead of the official 39, and GN 49 at 105mm instead of the official 58.
See test results for more than different 20 speedlite models in the Speedlights.net power index.
Flash Modes: ETTL / i-TTL, M, Multi Mode
The YN-560 has only the manual mode, but the current YN-468 for Canon offers all of the above flash modes, so no doubt about these flash modes being present also on the 565.
As can be seen from the YN-565 display screen below, there is also a distance calculator scale on the info panel – this would be a new feature for a Yongnuo.
I was wondering if there’s some more information on the Yongnuo billboard that went around (see here) so I asked a friend of mine who’s speaking Chinese.
He’s not a photography expert, but the words highlighted in the image here seem to talk about a modeling light.
It would be cool if somebody could confirm this, or let us know if there’s more new information in the text on the right that was overlooked so far.
Probably No HSS (FP Sync)
Comparing the icons used on the units reveals another detail: the button left of the “ZOOM” button serves for switching between normal and rear sync, but only on the two speedlites from Canon there’s an additional ‘flash-H icon’ text found on the flash. Means there’s probably no high speed sync possible with the Yongnuo 565EX.
PC Sync Port and External Power Connector
PC sync port is found on the YN-560, and can be seen on the YN565 photos below also.
Auto and Manual Zooming Head 24 – 105mm
The zoom range of 24-105 is the same as on the YN-560 and the Canon 580EX II it was modeled after.
With the wide panel, 18mm will be achieved. Zoom steps on the YN-560 are 24 – 28 – 35 – 50 – 70 – 80 – 105mm.
Auto Zoom for Sensor Size
Metz has been the only 3rd party able to offer the auto zoom for sensor size mode on their Canon compatible speedlights so far – even Nissin doesn’t have it!
3 Second Recycle Time
Given the similarity of the current YN-560 and future YN-565 we can assume they have identical recycle times (official specs are also the same for the 2 models).
This is another piece of good news: I tested the YN-560 according to ISO and got 3.4 sec for fresh Duracell alkaline batteries and a very fast 1.6 sec with Sanyo eneloop NiMH.
1.6 seconds recycle with eneloops – much faster flash recycle than with the 580EX II (or Nikon flashes). But OK, guide number will also be a little bit lower (34 versus 36 for Canon).
Metal Hot Shoe
Yongnuo have upgraded all their speedlites in January 2011 with a metal flash foot, so this is no surprise.
Yongnuo YN-565EX Wireless ETTL Mode Sensor
This is an additional sensor window within the AF assist beam cover, and it looks unlike anything else seen from Yongnuo to date:
According to Yongnuo
rumors, this new Yongnuo 565EX does not only work in the camera hot shoe in ETTL, but it does also support the wireless ETTL mode.
On their own version of the ST-E2 YN have successfully copied that technology already.
Here are some more photos showing the new Yongnuo flash.
More Yongnuo Flash Information
Go here for the YN-565 in-depth review.
Where To Buy
amazon is another great source for Yongnuo products but does not always have the same broad selection.