Yongnuo YN-465 Flash Review (digital AF speedlite)

YN-465 on Cam for in-depth reviewIf you’re looking for a digital flash for under 100$ your options are pretty limited; there is certainly nothing you could buy new from Canon or Nikon for that budget.

But how about a TTL flash for under 75$? With an additional “M” mode for “strobist” photography on top? That’s what you get with the Yongnuo YN-465!

The YN465, the first TTL model from the Chinese photo accessories company, is basically a TTL-enabled YN460. It is available in a Canon E-TTL (II) version or as a Nikon i-TTL model.

Both are sold under the same name but differ technically so you need to make sure it’s the right version for your brand when picking one up.

Within the Yongnuo line-up you find 2 more TTL flashes: the YN-467 for Canon or Nikon and the YN-468 (Canon only). The YN-465 is the entry level flash. The range now was extended by the addition of the YN-565.
 

YN 465 Highlights

  • full automatic flash photography with DSLR from Canon and Nikon at an absolute bargain price
  • super easy to use (stripped down feature set)
  • swivel and tilt flash head gives all options for bounced lighting (makes your photos look better)
  • additional manual mode with min power of 1/64 and all full stops

 

Camera Compatibility

The YN 465 flash is offered in a Canon and a Nikon version. Auction listings often mention specific camera models, but there are NO sub-version in reality, so all Canon versions are identical, and so are all YN-465 speedlights for Nikon.

Canon cameras Nikon cameras
  • the YN-465 is compatible with many, but not with all Canon DSLR’s. Go to the Canon-Yongnuo compatibility page for the list
  • the flash is probably also compatible with some non-DSLR cameras with ETTL flash; please add your own information on the Canon-Yongnuo compatibility page
  • the flash is incompatible with old, film-based Canon cameras from the pre-ETTL days
  • in general, the YN 465 should work with all Nikon i-TTL DSLR since the D80 or later.
  • according to Yongnuo, the 465 is not compatible with the Nikon D100, D50, D70 and the D2 series models.
  • as reported on flickr, the YN-465 is not compatible with the Nikon D200; however there’s a good chance the new upgraded 2011 model of the flash with metal foot will work with the D200
  • the closely related YN-467 (old version with plastic foot) is incompatible with D50, D70, D70s as reported by owners – which is why I expect the same issues with the YN-465. Please drop me a note if you have information.
  • it’s not working in TTL mode with analog camera bodies such as F4, F801 etc

 

Review Contents


Intro: Flash Modes and Wireless Flash

The YN465 comes with 2 modes: the normal TTL mode as a default setting, plus a fully-fledged manual mode.

ETTL (II) for Canon / i-TTL Exposure Control for Nikon Camera Bodies

Yongnuo YN-465 on Cam back panelThe YN-465, introduced in 2009, was the first TTL-enabled flashgun from the Yongnuo company in China. It builds on the feature set of the “strobist line” of manual flashes but adds through-the-lens exposure control for use in the camera hot shoe. For Canon, there are 2 more E-TTL models available with the YN-467 and the YN-468, and the third one = the YN-565 is expected to ship in May 2011. For Nikon, the only other option from Shenzhen is the YN-467 as of April 2011.

When the 465 was first introduced there were some reports about initial problems with the Nikon version, while the later released Canon version seemed to work perfectly right from the start. It seems to be a good idea in general to avoid the very first batch of a new Yongnuo model. My own YN-465 works perfectly and I think it’s offering a terrific value for people on a budget.

For camera compatibility please see the table above. The following list of TTL features is not supported by the YN-465: modeling light, high speed sync, sensor size detection, flash exposure compensation on the flash unit (you can use the camera body to dial in flash exposure compensation instead).

None of this is necessary for everyday flash photography but this flash is not designed for professionals, certainly. Jump to the TTL performance review section for detail information about flash performance when mounted on a DSLR.

Manual Flash Mode M

Manual mode photography is an extremely valuable feature and in some cases your best option for taking good looking photos. Using manual mode is a breeze with the YN 465: simply turn the command wheel to dial in a manual setting. All full stops are offered between full power (GN 33 on paper, but it’s lower in real life as can be seen from the test results below) and the minimum setting. Here’s the list of all steps:

1/1 – 1/2 – 1/4 – 1/8 – 1/16 – 1/32 – 1/64

Full details about using the YN 465 in manual mode can be found in the wireless flash section further below.

Non-Supported Flash Modes

The following flash modes are not supported by the YN-465: (the old & mostly obsolete) “auto” mode, multi flash / stroboscopic mode, TTL in the version for analog camera bodies, and the 1st gen Nikon D-TTL.

Wireless Flash with YN-465

Triggering through the flash foot (e.g. using Yongnuo RF-602 flash triggers) is the one option for using the YN465 as a wireless flash – it does not have the optical slave modes found on most other Yongnuo speedlites. But it works fine with radio triggers and has a wide 6-stop range of manual power levels from 1/1 down to 1/64.

The YN-465 does not work in Nikon TTL wireless slave mode “AWL”, nor in the corresponding wireless mode offered by Canon. There’s no way for remote triggering without additional accessories (flash triggers), even if your camera has a built-in mini flash with a commander mode, such as the ones found on the 600D / Rebel T3i, or the Nikon D90.

Read more about wireless flash in the Radio Triggering & Optical Slave Mode sections further below.

 

Basic information
Brand Yongnuo
Model YN465
Class mid-range
Cost (USD) 65
First introduction 2009
Successor none yet
Canon compatibility
Compatible with Canon cameras (E-TTL(II)) yes
Supported Canon flash modes ETTL(II), M
Canon wireless TTL slave / master no / no
Nikon compatibility
Compatible with Nikon cameras (CLS / i-TTL) yes
Supported Nikon flash modes i-TTL, M
Nikon wireless TTL slave / master no / no
Manual mode
Manual power settings (on the flash) 1/1 – 1/2 – 1/4 – 1/8 – 1/16 – 1/32 – 1/64

 

Supplied Accessories

The flash comes packed in a nice looking box. When you order from the manufacturer store it will probably ship in a thin bubble wrap envelope and there is not a lot of protection overall but all my Yongnuo flash units survived the travel from Hong Kong so far. The last one I ordered – a YN-467 for Nikon – even arrived within 8 days after the purchase which was pretty impressive for an offer with free shipping.

YN-465 with handbook, stand, pouch

The packaging includes – in contrast to most other brand flashes – a wide range of accessories:

  • the flash itself (even with a little bag of silica gel inside the battery compartment)
  • handbook in Chinese and English
  • a feature comparison chart about the Yongnuo flash models
  • a pouch
  • a stand
  • a flash bounce diffuser as a “free gift”.

If you buy a Sunpak PZ42X or a Metz 48 AF-1 / 50 AF-1 you get nothing but the flash itself and a handbook. There is no bag, or stand, or stofen supplied. The Vivitar DF-383 came at least with a pouch. But Shenzhen Yongnuo is way more generous in that respect.

Click here for the instruction manual of the YN-465. The bag that comes with the Yongnuo 465 is simple and doesn’t have any padding so the level of protection is not the same as for the SB-600 or SB-900 soft cases. The flash stand, on the other side, is a more expensive construction than the el-cheapo one of the SB-900 (or SB-700). It has a metal insert for the tripod mount, and a hole for the speedlite’s locking pin. The snap on diffuser comes as a “free gift” depending on the seller you’re ordering from. Btw, it’s exactly the same size/model that fits on the SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from Nikon.

Build Quality

The flash itself is a little bit bigger than the SB-600 / SB-700 / 430EX II from Canon but much smaller than the flagship models from Canon or Nikon. The casing and body seems to be Yongnuo’s own design mostly. The battery door hinge design is inspired by the Vivitar DF-383 while the flash overall shows a few similarities to the Vivitar, but also to the Nikon SB-600.

Casing

The YN-465 is a typical representative of the Yongnuo 460 series: a bit rough around the edges, but a sturdy construction overall and – in my opinion – a rather elegant casing that feels well in your hand. It would look even better if the labeling on the back panel was not in ‘font size 400′ but you get used to it.

Battery Door

I keep repeating myself in all 46x series reviews: the weakest spot in the construction is the battery door with its primitive plastic hinge. Everybody dislikes its but nobody seems to have had a real problem so far. The picture below shows the battery compartment of the YN465.

YN-465 battery compartment

Flash Foot

Update from January 2011: all YN flashes come now with a metal flash foot, see here for reports.

The standard ISO shaped flash foot is made from plastic sits well in my cameras’ hot shoes, radio triggers and flash stands. I have the Nikon version with the central X contact plus 3 additional i-TTL pins around it. I haven’t had (nor read about) any contact problems with Yongnuo so far.

There is a locking pin connected to the screw lock wheel to give you a reliable mount. The photo shows the foot of a pre-2011 YN-465 in comparison to the one of the Nikon SB-600.

Flash foot of YN-465 vs YN-460

Apart from the foot there is no other socket or connector on the outside of the YN-465, so use it for both mounting and triggering the unit.

Flash Head

It was a smart design choice by the Yongnuo engineers to give their 460 series flash heads the same front screen dimensions as the Nikon SB-600 / SB-800, so there is an abundance of stofens, lightspheres, grids, snoots etc that all fit the YN-465 as well.

Flash Head Adjustment

The ‘foursixtyfive’ has a movable flash head in both axes which is one of the features where it’s better than the entry level modes from Canon (270EX) and Nikon (SB-400). There is 270 degrees swivel to the left and right, and it can be adjusted between plus 90 degrees and minus 7 (it is -10 degrees actually) in the vertical axis, so bouncing the light off from a wall or the ceiling works well.

In the photo you can see it compared to the Nikon SB-600 which lacks the negative tilt, and so does the 430EX II from Canon.

YN-465 from the side compared to SB-600 from Nikon

There is no release button that needs to be pushed for turning or tilting the flash head. It still holds pretty tight in every position and operation is smooth at the same time – well built!

No Zoom Reflector

By default the flash covers 35mm in full frame (about 24mm for APS-C) and there’s no zoom reflector built-in – this is where most other digital TTL speedlights have an advantage, e.g. the zoom head models YN-467 and YN-468 which start at 24mm and zoom to 85mm max (full frame values).

If used with shorter lens settings, e.g. the 18mm position on a kit lens from Canon, vignetting will be visible on the frame borders. In that case use the wide-flash panel which helps with broadening the beam.

Wide angle coverage

Like all Yongnuo flashes the head features a built-in wide angle diffuser (plus bounce card). With this wide panel the coverage extends to 18mm full frame or 12mm for Nikon APS-C or about 11mm for Canon EF-S.

Operation

The first thing you should do after unpacking the new flash is peeling off the protective film and you will see that all the scratches on the back panel are gone. On that panel you won’t find an LCD but a simple battery of 7 yellow LED lights. They are used to display the output level in manual mode and not needed for TTL operation.

YN-465 back panel with control dial

In terms of user interface the flash is a dream – there is no other speedlite with comparable features I know of that operates as easily, despite the minimum number of controls. But clearly simplicity and ease of use go hand in hand, and this is a simple flash with no frills. I personally love that.

Apart from the LED’s there is a “Pilot” button for manual test flash release, and the only other control is a big black command wheel. Turn clockwise to power on in TTL mode, turn further for manual mode from 1/64 and through the 7 stop range to 1/1. That’s it – no custom features, and no other settings.

Power Supply

The YN-465 runs on 4 AA cells, either alkaline or NiMH. There are stickers in the battery chamber indicating the polarity. Once you master the right battery loading technique you’ll find it a trouble free exercise. Unlike on the 560 series from Yongnuo and the professional line from Nikon or Canon there is no external power source connector; but, to put things in perspective: given the very fast recycle time you won’t miss it much.

Test: Flash Recycling Times (2.0 / 1.2 (!) seconds)

Modern flashes have full-power recycle times between 2 and 6 seconds, depending on their maximum power and battery type. Speedlights.net recycle times are tested according to ISO 2827; see details.

The official specs for the flash under review mention 5 seconds recycling time. You can watch the alkaline battery test here (using a set of 4 brand new Duracells).
 

 

The flashgun achieves an outstanding result for both battery types. It only needs 1.2 seconds with fresh Sanyo eneloop NiMH cells (charged at 1.373 volts at the time of testing) and 2.0 seconds with the Duracell AA’s (1.614 volts). With this result it is much faster than the competition from Canon, Nikon and Metz; this is true not only for the mid-range flashguns like the 430EX II but also for their flagship speedlites like an SB-900 or 580EX (II).

The chart gives a graphical representation of the findings. It shows that recycles times stay pretty constant with NiMH and exhibit the typical increase with alkaline cells. It’s a very similar result as for the YN-467.

YN-465 Speedlights.net Recycle Times

Rechargeable NiMH batteries are certainly the preferred energy source not only for performance reasons but also a better choice for the environment.

Overheating Protection

If you fire a speedlite too often at maximum output the energy of the light will heat up the flashgun itself. Like other 460-series models (and also the YN560) there is a thermal cutout implemented in the YN-465 to prevent damages caused by the heat. I have seen it in action with the (stronger) YN-460-II but not on the YN-465 to date.

Test: Flash Output and Guide Number

The guide number (GN) of an electronic flash is a measure of the maximum light output – visit the test details page to learn more.

Official Specification: GN 33

The official specs for the YN-465 state a guide number of 33 which must be for 35mm since that’s the only reflector setting. As we’ve shown for other units in the 460 series the real guide number is lower than that, so the Yongnyo flashes don’t live up to their specs.

Flash Meter Results

All flashes are tested using the same standardized method using a Sekonic flash meter in a controlled environment. Speedlites are never tested alone, but always together with re-tests of other models to guarantee consistent results between sessions.

In testing, the light meter shows f16 plus 5/10 (a half stop over f16) putting our flash ahead of the SB-400 and also the Yongnuo YN467. Which is a bit surprising as the latter is equipped with a zoom head and you’d expect it would be better. f16 +5/10 is a bit behind the result for the Nikon SB-600, and clearly less than the Canon 430 (II). This is less of a surprise.
 

Model Light meter reading
Nissin Di622 Mark II f22 +4/10
Sunpak PZ42X f22 +3/10
Canon 430EX II f22 +2/10
Metz 48 AF-1 f22 +1/10
Nikon SB-600 f16 +9/10
Nikon SB-700 f16 +7/10
Yongnuo YN-465 f16 +5/10
Nikon SB-400 f16 +0/10
Yongnuo YN-468 f11 +7/10
Yongnuo YN-467 f11 +7/10

 

The following picture shows you the difference between 4 different speedlites. All pictures were shot at 1/200 seconds, f16 and flash at full manual power (SB-400 can be manually adjusted from the D90 menu system). Please note that these pictures don’t indicate that some of the units would be underpowered in absolute terms – with a bigger aperture you’d get a lot more light on this scene.

YN-467 Output vs YN465 SB-400 SB-600

Real World Guide Number: 27 – Guide Number Table

The calculated guide number is obtained by adding exactly 1 f-stop to the flash meter test results. Learn more about this method on the test details page.

The following table lists the calculated guide number test results for default and wide angle reflector position with the official spec for the default position in brackets below. Yongnuo does not provide a guide number table, that’s why the other fields are showing “na”.

Yongnuo YN-465 guide number table

Speedlights Power Index

The light blue bar in the Speedlights.net Power Index shows the official 35mm-GN, and the dark blue bar indicates the test results. Go to the test details page for more information on the Speedlights.net Power Index.

Speedlights.net digital TTL flash power index

The YN-465, like all other flashes from Yongnuo, is not as powerful as the specifications suggest. It missed the official GN 33 by quite a bit. But with a real guide number of 27 there’s still sufficient output provided, it’s almost on the level of Nikon’s new SB-700.

Test: Effective Output Range

Between maximum power and 1/64, the YN-465 offers a theoretical 6-stop range (one stop less than what you get from the Nikon SB-700). For full power on the YN465 the meter reads f16 +5/10. For 1/64 the meter shows f2.0 plus 8/10 – that’s why the real output range is 5.7 rather then 6 full stops.
 

Yongnuo YN-465 output range spec Output range from tests
6 stops 5.7 stops

 

Test: Continuous Shooting Output

All flashes lose some power when fired with maximum frequency; read the test info page to learn more about the effect and the test procedure.
 

Model Calc. guide number at 60 sec wait Calc. guide number at continuous fire Difference in f-stops
Nissin Di622 Mark II 36.8 32.0 -4/10
Canon 430EX II 34.3 26.0 -8/10
Metz 48 AF-1 33.1 29.9 -3/10
Nikon SB-600 30.9 25.1 -6/10
Nikon SB-700 28.8 26.9 -2/10
Canon 320EX 27.9 23.4 -5/10
Yongnuo YN-465 26.9 24.3 -3/10
Yongnuo YN-468 20.4 19.0 -2/10
Yongnuo YN-467 20.4 19.7 -1/10

 

3 tenths of a stop is the guide number decrease when the YN-465 is fired at maximum speed in the full power setting, i.e. as soon as the ready light comes back on. As you can see from the table this is a rather good result and it means the YN-465 won’t hardly be weaker in fast shooting sessions despite its awesome recycling performance. Good news.

Test: Flash Duration

Flash duration is the time between the beginning of the flash and the end of the light emission. Go to the speedlite test methodology page for information on t0.5 versus t0.1 flash durations and the method used here on the site.

YN-465 Flash Duration Compared

In reality there is hardly a difference between common modern-design flashes when it comes to flash duration – the following table is illustrating this fact; differences in the specs are due to different definitions involved on manufacturer side, as seems.
 

Model flash duration spec at 1/1 power (sec) t0.1 metering result (sec)
Nissin Di622 Mark II 1/800 1/375
Canon 430EX II unspecified 1/350
Metz 48 AF-1 1/125 1/230
Nikon SB-600 1/900 1/265
Nikon SB-700 1/1042 1/305
Canon 320EX unspecified 1/325
Yongnuo YN-465 1/800 1/375
Nikon SB-400 1/1300 1/325
Yongnuo YN-468 1/800 1/405
Yongnuo YN-467 1/800 1/405

 

t0.1 Flash Duration Times Table

 

Output level Manufacturer spec t0.1 metering
1/1 1/800 1/350
1/2 na 1/1630
1/4 na 1/3500
1/8 na 1/5600
1/16 na 1/6500
1/32 na 1/8000
1/64 na <1/8000

 
These are the typical values you’d expect for a speedlite, no surprises here. The last possible reading with the Broncolor FCC is 1/8000 at the 1/32 power setting; for 1/64, the time is outside of the metering range.

Tech Specs

Here is now an overview of the specifications and test results for the YN-465.

Model Information
Brand Yongnuo
Model YN465
First introduction 2009
Successor none yet
Output Specs
Guide number spec
(35mm, ISO 100, in meters)
33
Guide number test result 27
Manual power settings 1/1 – 1/2 – 1/4 – 1/8 – 1/16 – 1/32 – 1/64
Flash duration (full power) 1/800
Recycle time spec
(at full power)
5 sec alkaline
Recycle time test result 2.0 sec alkaline, 1.2 sec NiMH
Triggering
Flash foot material, type metal (2011), standard ISO
PC Sync Port no
Optical Slave no
Other Trigger no
Trigger Voltage 3.25 V (measured)
Standby Mode 40-50 sec, but instant wake-up & fire
Flash Head Features
Swivel -180 to +90 degrees
Tilt -10 to +90 degrees
Manual Zoom Head (18) 35mm fixed
Auto Zoom (18) 35mm fixed
Bounce card / 2nd reflector yes / no
LCD Display no
Power Supply
Batteries Used 4 x AA
External Power Source no
Nikon TTL
D-TTL no
i-TTL yes
CLS Wireless Slave no
CLS Wireless Master no
Canon TTL
E-TTL(II) yes
E-TTL(II) wireless slave no
E-TTL(II) wireless master no
Other Flash Modes
Stroboscopic Mode no
Auto Mode no
TTL Features
AF Assist Light yes
Exposure Compensation in TTL Mode on the Flash unit no
Rear Curtain Synchronization yes (if supported by cam)
High Speed Synchronization no
Sensor Size Detection (DX, FX, etc) no
Modeling Light no

 

Wireless Flash

Yongnuo flashguns have first gained a reputation among “strobist” photographers (visit David Hobby’s website here to learn about lighting). With their fast growing line of TTL models they are now also gaining ground among TTL (read: occasional) shooters, that’s why we are looking at both types of application here on the site.

Radio Triggering For Wireless Flash

There’s exactly one option for wireless flash, and that is attaching a trigger on the foot of the flash. There’s no PC sync socket, no slave sensor for optical triggering, no wireless TTL support in the dedicated systems from Canon or Nikon. It really comes down to radio triggering so no luxuries here, which means that the safest option does work.

The photo below shows a YN-460 on the right: you can see the center pin for the trigger signal, plus the locking pin which holds the flash in the hot shoe or in the supplied mini flash stand. On the left you can see the additional pins of the YN-465. These are the additional TTL contacts for the data exchange between the flash and the camera itself, but the strobe can be fired with the central pin alone, so “strobism” with radio triggers works perfectly fine.

Foot of the YN-465 compared to YN-460

The trigger voltage of the review unit is at 3.25 V so no danger for low voltage radio triggers. Useful for umbrella use are the negative flash head tilt (helps aiming better at the center of the umbrella), and the integrated wide angle screen for a wider light spread, beyond the 35mm illumination. Depending on the modifier you might also use the diffuser cap in addition.

Manual Mode Operation

The flash is switched on with the big command wheel on the control panel. The speedlite is super responsive overall and reacts without any delay. In manual mode the power can be set to 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, or 1/64 by turning the command wheel; no partial output levels but a good 6 stop range (7 different settings overall), indicated by the series of orange LEDs (“idiot lights”).

YN-465 back panel with control dial

No Optical Slave Modes

In contrast to the other Yongnuo speedlites this unit does not have the 2 optical slave modes built in. While this looks bad on paper it’s not a big loss in real life, at least for me: first you never get the same kind of near-100%-reliability with an optical slave sensor that you get with radio receivers anyways, so it’s a backup solution at best.

In addition, the type of optical trigger built-in on the 46x series models from Yongnuo is working under low ambient light conditions only but not outside in bright sunshine. It’s only the YN-560 optical trigger that always works very well, but not the ones on the 46x flashes (I tested them all).

No Troubles with Standby Mode

Standby / power saving mode has been changed versus previous models like the YN-460; the 465 unit enters standby now faster (within 40 to 50 seconds of inactivity). Standby is indicated by flashing “TTL” light or “M” LED plus flashing output level lights. As their standby mode disqualifies a lot of flashguns from strobist usage this sounds like very bad news but the Chinese have not screwed up here.

Rather have they come up with a really smart solution: the flash fires off at the very first press of the shutter (or trigger), which means it wakes up from standby and fires in parallel. I verified this behavior with two different radio triggers, the Cactus V4 and also the Yongnuo RF-602. With RF-602 installed it does not even go into standby actually – that is all excellent news.

YN-465 Wireless Flash Video Review

Here’s the video review of the YN-465 manual mode operation including battery loeading, flash mode setting, and radio triggering with Yongnuo RF-602 and the Cactus V4.
 


 

“Strobist” Must-Haves

To qualify for off camera work there needs to be a certain feature set present that is differing quite substantially from what you need in the normal flash photography use case. This is what’s called the “strobist must-haves” here on speedlights.net.

First and foremost you need a manual mode on a flash apart from the automatic TTL mode, and in order for that mode to be useful you need several different output levels to choose from. In addition the flash needs to be able to fire using the central X-contact alone – this is something the Nikon SB-400 is unable to do, for example. And finally you want to be able to use the flash with radio triggers without its power saving feature ruining your day by locking the flash

  • manual mode
    • has manual mode: yes
    • minimum manual power: 1/64
    • all full stops from 1/1 to 1/64: yes
  • X contact firing: yes
  • flash standby mode: 40-50 sec, but instant wake-up & fire

There is not one feature too much on the YN-465, but that’s what enables the great pricing. And at the same time there is no weakness either – the YN-465 is a very useful “strobist” speedlite with good output and a good range of power steps too. So all in all the verdict is AA (-) but don’t hesitate to get one for your strobist kit in case the additional TTL might come handy one day.

YN-465 i-TTL Nikon (E –TTL for Canon) Review

The YN-465 is the first TTL-enabled flashgun from the Yongnuo company in China. It builds on the feature set introduced with their ‘strobist line’ of manual flashes but adds thru-the-lens exposure control for use in the camera hot shoe. For Canon, there are 2 more E-TTL models available with the YN-467 and the YN-468. For Nikon, the only other option from Shenzhen is the YN-467 as of May 2011.

Yongnuo 465 on camera

A compatibility list for the YN-465 can be found at the beginning of this review (click here to jump to the compatible camera models section).

The picture below shows the Yongnuo YN465 mounted on Nikon D90 which results in a compact and well balanced package. The flash is a little bit bigger than the SB-600 but much smaller than the flagship models from Canon or Nikon.

Yongnuo YN-465 on Cam back panel

Hot Shoe Operation

The Yongnuo YN-465 (photo left) has had a plastic foot with a screw-lock pin; since 2011 all YN speedlites have a metal flash foot design. The foot slides in the D90 hot shoe with a bit of resistance, and a full lock requires a bit more than a half turn. I have not had any contact problems with my Yongnuo flashes to date. As soon as you power the flash on, the camera’s top display lights up for a couple of seconds.

Flash foot of YN-465 vs YN-460

It is a bit annoying on the Nikon D90 (and it was the same on the D80) that the camera does not recognize an accessory flash in its hot shoe as long as the unit is powered off. As if there was nothing the built-in flash tries to pop out with the flash mode button and knocks against the external flash.

As soon as the external flash is switched on the camera does recognize it and the built-in flash gets deactivated. This works with a Nikon SB-600 as well as the Yongnuo 465 (but not with a non-TTL flash like the YN-460 or the Vivitar 285HV for example: if one of these sits on the camera and powered on the built in flash still tries to pop up with the Nikon flash mode button).

The YN-465 enters power saving mode in under a minute of inactivity and then starts flashing the LEDs on the back. It comes back immediately as soon as you half-press the shutter release and fires even at the first full press. Means you are always ready to fire, similar to the standby feature on the Nikon SB-900.

AF Assist Beam

When the first YN460 models hit the market, the red screen on the front side of the flash was a pure dummy with no function at all. It was only later that this became the place where the light sensor for the optical slave mode was put, and since the YN-465 it’s also housing the LED based AF assist light that supports focusing in low light situations.

The light is a simpler construction than the dual-beam design on the Nikon 600, 700, 800 and 900 series speedlights / the Canon 430EX (II) / 580EX (II) flashes but still effective overall when used with the middle AF sensor. However, in the most difficult situations – like subjects lacking any contrast, at very long distances, or at the frame borders – it can’t always compete with the Canon or Nikon focus assist and their pronounced grid pattern.

Zoom Modes

Like on the Nikon SB-400 the angle of coverage for the flash beam is fixed. The YN-465 has a reflector covering a 35mm FX lens (or ~24mm DX / APS-C / EF-S). You can certainly use it with a longer lens but in contrast to a flash with zoom reflector it does not narrow down the beam and the guide number doesn’t increase (flashguns with zoom reflector typically win 1 f-stops between 35mm and their 105mm setting).

With the built-in wide panel coverage increases down to 18mm FX (around 12mm DX for Nikon, 11mm for a Canon Rebel). Yongnuo got a bit of a bad reputation for the low quality of their flip-down wide panels in the first batches of the YN-460 which seemed to break or even fall off in some cases. Things have improved as I haven’t read about problems with it in a longer time now (and I haven’t had problems myself on my 6 flashes from the 460 series).

Lack of a zoom reflector does not cause any problems with the camera obviously; It’s just like with a built-in flash where this is the same situation or with the aforementioned SB-400 (or the respective Canon flash 270EX / 270EX II). The difference is that the Yongnuo is stronger than these entry-level models, it’s almost on the level of the new SB-700.

E-TTL / i-TTL Performance

To activate TTL mode on the flash you need to physically set the command dial to the respective position – like usual in the Nikon system the mode is not set on the camera, but on the speedlight direct (yes, the SB-400 is an exception here).

YN465 YN467 SB600 SB400 Back Panels

There are no other features to activate on it like flash exposure compensation or acoustic signals or slave mode or anything else. What is certainly available is a manual mode as a TTL alternative (see further above). In mode TTL, the D90 camera can be used in any mode supporting a flash; I explicitly tested it in P, S and A (but see below for some advice regarding FP sync setting).

Viewfinder information

There are 3 icons or groups of symbols when it comes to flash related functionality in the D90 viewfinder. One of them is FV lock which we will talk about further down on this page. The other two are:

  • flash-ready indicator:
    This is the lightning stroke symbol and the rightmost icon in the viewfinder info bar. If a compatible flash is ready to fire the symbol is lit. Once fired, the symbol disappears until the flash has recycled. Yongnuo’s YN465 masters this discipline as good as the speedlight from Nikon, it even blinks for 3 seconds if fired at full power to indicate a potential underexposure, just like an original. In contrast, a YN-460 on the hot shoe shows a flickering light (which means “some flash light would be needed here but there seems to be no flash active”), so this is something that has been developed by the Yongnuo engineers for their TTL models.
  • flash compensation indicator and flash compensation value:
    this functionality is also supported by the i-TTL flash from Yongnuo and works fine; see below in the discussion for more details.

TTL Performance

I shot around 500 photos with the Yongnuo YN-465 in TTL mode and exposure is very good in general. There was no situation where it disappointed, be it direct flash or bounced against the ceiling.

YN-465 Daylight Fill Flash

Daylight fill flash exposure is very good, especially the balance between natural and flash light is pleasing. In none of my daylight fill flash photos there was noticeable over- or underexposure of the main subject or background.

YN-465 direct flash unedited

Photo above: Direct flash; shot was taken at 70mm with a D90 at ISO 640, shutter priority at 1/200, f2.8. Contrast was set to neutral, sharpness to minimum.

YN-465 slightly edited

Photo above: the same shot with a more pronounced S-curve applied and sharpened via USM.

Please go to the YN-465 i-TTL sample picture page for more sample shots and information about white balance, fill flash and bouncing light.

The summary of the TTL tests is that the YN465 is able to deliver very decent results, also when directly compared with Nikon’s own SB-600.

Flash Sync Modes

The normal sync option is on the first curtain and usually with shutter speeds between 1/60 and the max sync speed, typically between 1/200 and 1/250 seconds. The Yongnuo YN465 has support for some but not all of the other sync options you get with the SB-600 from Nikon.

Slow Sync

Slow sync is supported by the SB-600 and works also with YN-465, no difference for this highly useful functionality that helps you balance ambient with flash light. In the Canon system, there’s no flash setting for slow sync; use the “Av” camera mode instead.

Rear Curtain Sync

2nd curtain sync is set on the D90 body using the flash mode button (unlike YN468 the YN-465 has no rear curtain sync setting on the flash itself). The picture was shot hand held at 1/2 second, f2.8, ISO 200. Not a good photo but should be good enough to demonstrate that rear curtain sync works.

Yongnuo YN-465 Rear Curtain Synch Nikon D90

I’m actually not sure if this needs to be supported by the flash at all; it’s simply a camera feature in the Nikon system. Because – it even works with the manual-mode only Yongnuo 460 on the D90.

Update from March 2011: A got an email from a Canon 60D user (thanks again for the information!) who’s able to use it in rear curtain sync when changing the sync mode from the camera menu system. I’m not sure if this works with all Canon bodies or only select (recent?) models, but there are compatible bodies for rear sync with this model of Yongnuo flash.

No High Speed Sync With YN-465

For me, this feature is pretty important: with auto FP (or ‘HSS’ = high speed sync) enabled you can go beyond the camera’s sync speed while using flash light. On the D90, the minimum shutter speed for flash is 1/200 sec. With auto FP enabled, you can take flash photos with any shutter speed the camera offers, that means also with shorter times, e.g. 1/500 or 1/4000 sec.

Nikon’s speedlights SB-600, SB-700, SB-800 and SB-900 support this very useful feature (in the current lineup, only SB-400 does not). If FP is set to “on” in the camera it seems like you can also use it with the YN465. Switch to mode A or S and you will see that times shorter than 1/200 are possible. But fire a shot and you will notice the flash does fire.

But don’t get fooled: although the flash does fire there is no light from it on the frame. HSS works with a series of mini flashes firing one after another to overcome the problem of partly closed shutter curtains. This is not working with the Yongnuo which is firing just once.

I highly recommend deactivating the FP sync setting manually on your Nikon camera body to protect yourself from errors, or use mode “S” and set a shutter speed of max 1/200 sec. For owners of a Canon DSLR, there’s no problem with this: the sync mode jumps back when you try to select “HSS” and the short times don’t get ever used.

Other Flash Features

This section deals with red-eye flash, modeling light, flash-off, and flash exposure compensation / flash bracketing settings.

Red-Eye Reduction

Anti red eye flash is not supported by the YN-465: the mode can be selected with the flash mode button on the camera, and the flashgun does fire, but the anti red eye pre-flashes are not emitted. The same applies for the combination of red-eye flash plus slow sync; again, no anti red eye pre-flash on the Yongnuo (slow sync works).

Modeling Light

Modeling light is activated through setting e3 on the Nikon D90. If set to “on” and when using a compatible flash you can generate a (more or less useful) modeling light by pressing the depth-of-field button near the lens mount on the camera body. With the YN465 in the hot shoe the depth-of-field button is doing its normal job (which is a depth-of-field preview obviously) but there is no modeling light.

Flash Exposure Compensation

Using the flash mode button and one of the D90′s control dials, flash output can be modified in a range from -3 to +1 EV. In the viewfinder, you can see an active flash exposure compensation as well as the amount that is set when the flash mode button is pressed. This works exactly the same way on the 465 as it does on the SB-600; both tested flashguns do execute the command.

When using the SB-600 with its own, built-in output level compensation you have a second way to override flash output: either on the camera or on the flash itself or both combined (e.g. +1 on the SB-600 plus -2 on the camera gives you -1 overall). With the YN-465 you don’t have EV compensation on the flash but you can use the flash output compensation on your camera.

Flash Exposure Lock (FV Lock)

FV lock allows locking in of a certain flash level – it is like exposure lock but for the flash output. To activate you need to configure either the AE-button or the Fn-button (Nikon D90), and then the camera-mounted speedlite sends out a pre-flash once this button is pressed. This works well with the Nikon unit. Together with the metering flash, the FV lock icon lights up in the viewfinder until the next press of the Fn button deactivates both icon and the feature again.

The Yongnuo sends out the pre-flash too but the symbol only flashes up for a fraction of a second and then disappears again. And I don’t think it stores the value actually. Even after looking into the Yongnuo handbook again and following the steps listed there I could not get the flash exposure lock to work really.

Flash Bracketing (FEB)

With custom feature e4 “auto bracketing set” on the Nikon D90 you can set different types of bracketing when the auto bracketing mode of the camera is used. Personally, I never used this feature before as I do bracketing manually when it’s needed, but a quick test of the flash bracketing shows that it is working with the Yongnuo model 465. Function e6 finally lets you select the bracketing order.

Flash Off

The Nikon D90 has a setting on the mode dial called “flash off”. Unfortunately the ‘flash off’ mode on the camera body is a point and shoot mode and does not allow you to select the f-stop or shutter speed (nor sensor sensitivity) yourself. But there is a workaround for camera bodies with a FUNC button – you can assign a custom function for flash-off with it.

YN-465 Review: Conclusion

After their first products YN460 and YN462 Yongnuo worked into 2 directions to further expand their lineup of speedlites: with the 465 / 467 / 468 they introduced E-TTL / i-TTL support while the YN460-II goes into another direction: no TTL but more power, making it the better choice for the “strobist” who won’t use TTL ever. The latest strobist model now is the YN560 (a really nice flash by the way, but no TTL).

Among their TTL flashes the YN-465 is a great offer. Not in terms of the richness of features, but in terms of value. It works very well without a major weakness. And it’s really cheap.
 

YN-465 Positives

  • very low price
  • good i-TTL exposure
  • extremely easy to use
  • very fast recycling times
  • powerful enough for most situations
  • complete standard accessories (bag, stand, diffuser)
  • very usable for strobist lighting with 7 stop manual control
  • standard size flash head (same as Nikon SB-600)

YN 465 Weaknesses

  • no zoom reflector, coverage for 35mm / 18mm only
  • need to deactivate FP-sync in camera modes “A” and “S” (Nikon)
  • AF assist light not as effective as Canon/Nikon flashes
  • limited to basic TTL features
  • no wireless TTL slave mode

 

Get one of these for a low cost entry into accessory flash. It is much cheaper than a SB-400 and 270EX but offers a lot more in every aspect that matters: power – flash head adjustment – off camera use.

Also, consider adding one of these to your strobist kit with YN-460-II or YN-560. It works with radio triggers, but at the same time serves as a backup flash for the hot shoe.

Where to Buy the YN-465

Yongnuo products can be found on eBay: see all YN-465 offers here for the best prices (check warranty conditions). An option is to buy direct from the Yongnuo manufacturer store where it normally comes with a 1-year warranty.

amazon is another good source for Yongnuo products; compare the availability and purchase price there. You help expand speedlights.net with further reviews if you buy through these links. Thank you very much for your support.


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66 Responses to Yongnuo YN-465 Flash Review (digital AF speedlite)

  1. Pete says:

    will this work on a Canon 30D – 1’2 the dealers on ebay list it as compatible and the other half leave it off the list…

  2. fransener says:

    Thanks Pete for the question! Just asked Yongnuo again, and they keep saying it is NOT compatible with the Canon 30D. There seems to be nobody out there who has experience with that combination, and I can’t test it myself at the moment either. So if you decide to go ahead and give it try, keep us updated please!

  3. Max says:

    Olá, gostei muito deste review, gostaria de ver mais fotos feitas com o Yongnuo YN465, voce poderia nos fazer este favor?

    Grande abraço
    Max Rocha
    Governador Valadares/Brasil.

  4. Max says:

    Frank, now thanks for the reply. Yes I am in doubt about the quality of YN465 for Nikon because it costs half the price of the SB600. I have also trying to verify the quality of Nissin DI466, DI622, DI866, unfortunately we do not see where the photographer pictures published report that used these flashes. My concern is technical, I would like to see the behavior of the flash on the Nikon d5000, if the photos are underexposed or overexposed, if an environment is well lit, if the faces are well exposed in the photographs. In short, you recommend this flash for small jobs, pictures, birthdays?

    Thanks
    Max Rocha
    Governador Valadares/Brasil

  5. fransener says:

    For hobby use, I’d recommend the YN-465 anytime. It does not offer all features the SB-600 has, but it’s doing its job well. The photo of the kid above is not retouched at all, just straight out of cam. This is the fill flash situation.

    I had no real over- or underexposure at all with this flash so far. If you are a pro and depend on your gear to make a living, then you want to have several flash units, not only one. I’d not really buy a Yongnuo as my first flash in that case, but as a backup.

  6. Bruce says:

    Frank, now thanks for the reply. Yes I am in doubt about the quality of YN465 for Nikon because it costs half the price of the SB600. I have also trying to verify the quality of Nissin DI466, DI622, DI866, unfortunately we do not see where the photographer pictures published report that used these flashes. My concern is technical, I would like to see the behavior of the flash on the Nikon d5000, if the photos are underexposed or overexposed, if an environment is well lit, if the faces are well exposed in the photographs. In short, you recommend this flash for small jobs, pictures, birthdays?

    Thanks
    Max Rocha
    Governador Valadares/Brasil

  7. clarence says:

    i’m planning to buy this flash gun.

    will this work fine with a Nikon D90 camera?
    I’m kinda worried because it might damage my camera or something.

  8. clarence says:

    is there any other concerns using YN465 with Nikon D90 other than stated above?

  9. fransener says:

    I’ve been shooting now even more with the YN465, still very happy with it. I plan on publishing another post with more pictures, should be ready within 1 -2 weeks hopefully. And I’m using a D90 for my shooting (D80 as backup).

  10. Ben says:

    Thanks for doing this review!!! Thinking about getting an inexpensive flash, have been asked just as a favor to possible take pictures at our upcoming 30th year class reunion. It’s a restaurant banquet setting, looks a bit dark but thinking this may do the trick. Really never done any flash stuff and not planning on so don’t want to sink much into this if I do decide to do it. Any thoughts would be so appreciated, I’m using the D90 as well so that’s so cool you did this with the same. Thanks for all your work, Ben Tebbens.
    Here’s my photostream if you care to look.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/21183284@N05/

  11. fransener says:

    Great photos Ben, I like it! Direct flash with the D90 really works fine, you get better light though if you use a white wall or ceiling to bounce the light off and back to the subject. In that case you might want to dial the ISO up , but this is something to find out through trial. The best light can be obtained if there is a white wall behind you, then turn the flash head 180 degrees and point it towards that wall. That’s what I did here: http://speedlights.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/YN-465-i-TTL-Wall-Bounce.jpg – doesn’t even look like flash even!

  12. Glenn says:

    I just bought this flash about a week ago. So far, so good.
    I was shooting outdoors this weekend and needed a strong fill. This flash did the job with power to spare. It also lights up the night! Thanks for taking the time to put these reviews together. I couldn’t afford to buy a new or used Nikon speedlight, but I really wanted to begin the Strobist journey. The YN-465 is a great flash for the beginning Strobist!

  13. Richard says:

    Pete,
    Yes the 465 does work with 30D (I have this combination) even though yongnou themselves claim it doesn’t … as you say half the resellers say yes, so I just had to try it and see.. :-)

  14. Lino says:

    Does the YN-465 support wireless i-TTL using radio triggers such as the RF-602?

    • fransener says:

      Hello Lino

      The YN-465 supports i-TTL only as long as it is mounted on the camera hot shoe (or connected with a Nikon i-TTL cable). But if triggered with wireless radio triggers like RF-602 or Cactus V4 or V2s, it will not work in i-TTL mode.

  15. Greg says:

    Hi Guys,

    I think some misunderstood the way the camera exposure works. Even with Nikon iTTL flashes (I use SB800s and SB600s) and professional lenses the flash exposures are not always spot on (though close); any sports photographer will tell you that. It is not the matter of whether the flash exposure is spot on at all times or not; but rather how consistent it is – you could always correct it.

  16. Nico says:

    I have to say, that for my Nikon D90 and a newly received YN-465 FV Lock works without any problem. Perhaps Yongnuo made an update of their firmware?!

  17. karen says:

    Is there a difference between a speedlite and a flash . If so what would be best for me . I have a canon rebel xs.

    • fransener says:

      Hi karen

      The terms speedlite, flash and speedlight are used here interchangeably, they’re all meaning the same thing. If money is no issue, get a Canon 430EX II for your rebel. If you want to spend less look at the Nissin Di622 Mark II (I am currently reviewing the Nikon version and quite pleased; don’t buy the original Di622 ‘mark 1′), or buy a Yongnuo YN-465 if budget is tight – my favorite low budget speedlite.

  18. gio sai says:

    hi do you think this would be compatible to my old canon d30, I lost my canon flash on one of my shoot before and Im budget constrained right now so im thinking of this yn 465
    regards

    • fransener says:

      Hello gio sai

      I don’t know if it will be compatible or not. Since there is no zoom, nor much other customization or anything that could cause incompatibilities, it might work. But if it doesn’t work you won’t be happy either. Unless you have a chance to buy locally and return to your dealer.

  19. Deen says:

    I’m new to photography and want a budget flash. Looking at the 465, 467 and 468 for my XSI. I know you said the 465 is best low budget flash. I was hoping to spend about $100 so the 468 is in my price range. Would you recommend that above the 465 then?

    • fransener says:

      Hello Deen

      The 465 has no zoom reflector, no optical slave modes, but it has more power at 35mm than the YN468. The 468 has more features, and an LCD display. I use the flash not only on camera but also on light stands and with umbrellas, therefore I value the additional wide angle power of the YN465 higher than the additional features of the YN468, but there’s nothing wrong with the YN468. Just published this here too: 430EX II vs YN-468: http://speedlights.net/2010/12/30/yongnuo-yn468-vs-430ex-ii-canon-speedlite/

  20. hi. i need your opinion. i’m torn between buying an old but in good condition canon speedlite 430ex (the first version released 2005) versus brand new Yungnuo’s YN-465 TTL? they have the same price. if you were me, what would you pick and why?

    • fransener says:

      Hi girlfromdipolog

      I think I’d get the 430EX if in good condition from a trustworthy source. Flashes don’t get old quickly but can be used over many years, and the 430EX has still pretty much everything you want. It’s more powerful than the YN465 I believe, that’s why I would decide for the Canon.

  21. DIKIAM says:

    What Yongnuo camera flash compatible to Canon SX30IS model.

  22. thank you so much for taking time to reply. I’ve consulted other forums and they recommend the same as well. thanks a lot!

  23. anthony says:

    i’m amateur, i want ask about the feature of YN-465. It has no multi-mode. What does it mean ? is it mean, i can’t use multi flashes at the same time (with trigger) ? Thanks you very much, your articles are very detailed, really help me a lot.

    • fransener says:

      Hi anthony

      No multi mode just means there is no ‘stroboscopic’ mode available. Strobo mode allows you to fire multiple flashes – from the same speedlite – during one single exposure to create a special effect. It’s a gimmick that no one really ever needs. The YN-465 can be used together with other speedlites, radio triggers etc – there is no limitation!

  24. Luis says:

    Hi, which flash do you prefer yn 465 or 467. I am confused by the fact that it seems 467 has a lower performance even having the zoom capability. Thanks

    • fransener says:

      Hi Luis

      I personally prefer the YN465, but have a look at the guide number tables in both models in-depth reviews – you find measurement results for different zoom steps there.

  25. leudis says:

    hi I got the following Camera and im looking for a low budget flash that will work just fine with the D80 Or D3000 with the Yongnuo Wireless Remote Control RF-602 Do Anyone Think This will work.

  26. Gabrielius says:

    hi,
    how important is the metal foot? I can order it with plastic foot from uk and I will get it after a week and if I will order it from china, I will get the metal one, but I will need to wait it for over a month. So if the metal foot is worth waiting that much?
    Thanks

    • fransener says:

      Hi Gabrielius

      There’s no real downside to a plastic foot. Nikon used to have plastic flash foot back in the days, e.g. for SB-24, and these are still sought after. Today however most manufacturers use a metal flash foot. Supposedly, YN improved quality control too, that might be another reason to get the upgraded design. If you don’t need it urgently, get the one with metal foot, if you really need it the plastic foot version of the YN465 should be fine too.

  27. CA says:

    I just received one today and it now has a metal shoe. Works great with my Canon Xsi. I did a ton of research and decided on this one for the price and features. Got it on ebay for $70.00 with shipping included. It came with a stand, bag and a difuser cover.

  28. Lauren says:

    Hi,
    I wonder if anyone can help me? I have a new Nikon D5000 and have just brought myself a Yongnuo YN465. The flash gun works when I press ‘pilot’, but it does not flash when I press the shutter in neither TTL or M mode. Do I need to change any settings on my camera to make it flash? I thought it was as easy as attaching it and away I go..? Any help much appreciated! Thanks!

  29. Eric says:

    hi, couple quick questions, do you know if this flash, or for that matter any other yongnuo flashes would act as ttl slaves off of, say, a nikon sb-700 as a commander? also as i shot skateboarding and snowboarding flashes don’t last to long for me (riders tends to hit them) would this be a suitable off camera flash using wireless triggers for key lights? also what triggers would you recommend for a cheep price? thanks!
    -Eric

    • fransener says:

      Hi Eric – first, the YN-465, YN-467, YN-468 don’t offer the wireless TTL mode If shooting at daylight, forget their optical slave mode – it goes blind at anything above EV 8. But radio triggering works very well. I recommend Yongnuo RF-602, I kind of like them more than the successor model RF-603 even. When used together with wireless triggers, you can also go for a non-TTL flash from Yongnuo, esp the YN-460-II or the YN-560. For an upcoming wireless-TTL model from YN, look here on the site for “YN-565″. Good luck!

  30. Nikki says:

    Thanks for the great review of this speedlite! I was looking for an inexpensive alternative to Canon’s brand and thank goodness I ran across your site and its review. Bought the 465 from ebay today for my Xsi; can’t wait to get it and test it.

    You didn’t mention it in your review, but please, please, please tell me that this speedlite will not fry my Xsi’s circuitry! I assume because it’s compatible, it will not. Guess I’m looking for reassurance.

    Should I try using the 465 with my Canon XT? It’s got a question mark by it on the compatibility table. Again, is there a chance of circuitry being fried?

    Thanks for your answer in advance.

    • fransener says:

      Hi Nikki – thanks for your feedback, yes please report back on compatibility to inform others, would be very much appreciated. No reason to be nervous about the flash frying your cam. My own unit has a trigger voltage of 3.25 (is in the specs table, maybe difficult to find there?), that’s the region where all my YN flashes are. You can find the trigger voltage values for different speedlites here in the specs tables on the site. My 430EX II, in comparison, has 4.5 V trigger voltage.

      • Nikki says:

        Thanks for your reply. I looked in my Xsi instruction manual for trigger voltage info, but didn’t see any figures with that info. Would the Canon site have that info?

        CA (above) on March 4th says the 465 works with his/her Xsi, so that makes me feel better.

        I assume once I find the trigger voltage of the Xsi, then the 465 should be less than that figure in order to not fry circuitry, right? Just trying to understand, bear with me.

        Thanks again.

        • fransener says:

          Hi Nikki

          A camera doesn’t have a trigger voltage, but there’s limit for the trigger voltage of the flash it can handle (or not). What I read is that Canon cameras can cope with max 6 V in their hot shoes, but do a google research to confirm. Since my 430EX II has 4.5 V, and my YN-465 is lower than that with 3.25 V, there’s no risk from that side. Hope that helps!

          • Nikki says:

            Thank you for your reply, again! Just for grins, I’ll do a google search for Canon trigger voltage for flashes, and try and confirm your 6v figure. Will let you know what I find.

          • Nikki says:

            After some google sleuthing, I found the 6v figure also. I also found a 250v figure but that referred to PC-syncing, and I won’t be using the 465 wirelessly.

            Just to make sure we’re on the same page, the 3.25v figure you metered for the 465 refers to hotshoe, right? If I’m understanding correctly, your metered figure is below the figure Canon says is the limit, so I should be okay.

            Sorry to be a pain but I just can’t afford a stupid mistake about flash/hotshoe voltage.

            Thanks for your patience!

          • fransener says:

            Hi Nikki! Yes, the metering I do is on the hot shoe of the flash always, that’s where the 3.25 V applies. Here’s a pic from YN-460-II trigger voltage metering for you. And don’t worry about asking the questions, it’s fun talking with you and others will benefit from the conversation as well.

  31. Nikki says:

    Thanks again for your reply. I think I’m sufficiently convinced about the hotshoe voltage now!

    When I get my 465 early next week, I’ll let you know how it works on my Xsi and XT.

  32. Nikki says:

    Update: just got my 465 today!! Have taken pics of my cats and they turned out super! I set it on TTL and used it a couple of different ways–first with the built-in reflector card and ceiling bounce and then with an RPS Studio mini-softbox diffuser that fits over the flash head with the flash head at a 90-degree angle. I’m very pleased with the flash and I love that it’s soooo easy to use! It’s nice that there’s manual capabilities also.

    No worries on the camera circuitry :) and flash; all is well. Will report on how the flash works with the XT in my next post.

    Thank you again for all your help!

  33. Nikki says:

    The 465 flash works with my Canon XT also. Just thought you’d like to know, as I said I’d report back on it.

  34. Mina Kedis says:

    Dear sir,
    which do you recommend the YN-465 or the YN-468?
    one more thing i want to buy a wireless trigger and receiver and i have noticed that the RF-603 and RF-602 are the same price so which would you recommend as well, i know the differences between both i just need an over all opinion for the flash and the wireless trigger receiver .
    thank you so much.

  35. Thanks for a great review sir! Was fumbling around in the dark (pun?) to find the best budget flash I could get for basic photography and you’ve just given me the answer. Looks like the YN-465 is a better choice than the YN-467 by means of power so will be picking one up – soon.

    Thanks again and more power!

  36. sherwin t. robles says:

    i just bought my youngnuo speedlite yn465 in amazon.uk but it’s not working. What possible could be the reason? Im using Nikon D3100. Do i need to change settings in my cam for it to work? or is it just simply defective?:( I hope to hear your thoughts about this.

    • Speedlights says:

      Hi Sherwin! Is it the version with plastic flash foot, or the YN-465 with a metal foot? Do you know other Nikon users to try out your flash? And what’s the problem, anyway – is it powering on at all, does it fire off with the camera? Frank

  37. Richard says:

    I am purchasing a Canon T3i. Is the YN465 compatable with this camera?

  38. ccting says:

    I bought YN465 1 month ago. At first, it worked perfectly as described in this page. However, after a few thousands shots, it starts to mulfunction. Sometimes it fires sometimes not – unpredictable.. I heard to fire “click” sound without flash..

    What is the problem with the unit.? I plan to buy a few units of YN560, will the same problem occurs ?

  39. ash says:

    Hello Frank,

    Thank you so much for your reviews. I have a question on YN-465EX’s wide angle coverage, when you put the included “bounce diffuser” (that came as a gift from some sellers), does the wide angle coverage extend below 35mm (e.g., 18mm EF-S kit lens) or it is still the same and vignetting will be shown in the photo. If it is possible to extend the coverage, then what would be the light loss or GN at 35mm with the diffuser cap on? How is the quality of the included diffuser? Does it change exposure quality, color, contrast, etc?

    • ash says:

      Hi Fransener,

      Sorry, I thought Fransener and Speedlights are the same person. It would be helpful if you could answer above question.

  40. Donnie says:

    I’m using YN465 with my Nikon D90 but can’t get it to work with TTL. Can anyone advise me.

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